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PostOctober 5, 2009-Discussion

These were our topic points:
1) Why do you practice Tai Chi/Kung Fu?
2) What benefits have you experienced from your practice?
3) What principle do you struggle with?

Here is the string of conversation (I have taken some administrative license to edit out some of the extraneous conversation that was irrelevant to the topics, in order to keep the transcript as succinct as possible):

[19:08:39 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Why do you practice Tai Chi?
[19:08:57 05/10/09] Susan J : I had tried learning tai chi from tv and not had much success. I looked comforting somehow.
[19:09:16 05/10/09] Susan J : I mean IT looked comforting. And it is
[19:09:21 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Where di they have Tai Chi on TV? Was it a show?
[19:09:54 05/10/09] Susan J : It was on PBS - one of those things that come and go.
[19:11:22 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : OK...does anyone have any questions for Susan before we nove on?
[19:11:22 05/10/09] alice p : I practice Taiji for the exercise and spiritual side, meditaion & breath workand now I practice for the comraderiy
[19:11:40 05/10/09] grace witting : I first tried tai chi from a video tape of Joshua Grant, some medal winner
[19:12:21 05/10/09] grace witting : I also value you highly the meditative nature, comraderie, and good exercise
[19:12:28 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : So Alice...I am wondering what experience you have had with the spiritual and meditative side?
[19:12:37 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Grace...you too!
[19:12:57 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : I am curious about other people's experiences with those two aspects
[19:13:00 05/10/09] grace witting : It frees the mind
[19:13:31 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : When you say it frees the miond...do you mean you focus on one thing or do you mean something else?
[19:13:31 05/10/09] grace witting : Oddly enough by having to be mindful if that makes any sense
[19:13:50 05/10/09] alice p : I find that when I am able to focus and it flows I I am calmer and feel connected to more than ///
[19:14:13 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : I agree with both of you.
[19:14:17 05/10/09] grace witting : It frees you by having to focus on the tai chi, and in as much detail as possible
[19:14:29 05/10/09] Susan J : It's like a mantra - the monkey mind has something to think about.
[19:15:15 05/10/09] alice p : Yea and when the chi is really flowing it lifts you out of everyday stuff
[19:15:31 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : OK..back onn topic
[19:15:47 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : I think it is fdascinating that more focus creates more ffreedom!
[19:16:14 05/10/09] grace witting : That is opposites again, isn't it Donna
[19:16:16 05/10/09] manickam34 : yes
[19:16:24 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Raja...we just shared why we do Tai Chi...do you want to share the answer for you?
[19:16:32 05/10/09] alice p : Yes like everythng in Taiji it seems to be a lot of opposites
[19:16:40 05/10/09] Susan J : Hi Raja. Donna do you think maybe we become temporarily free of ourselves?
[19:17:27 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Maybe we do or maybe we become more finely attuned with ourselves...
[19:17:28 05/10/09] manickam34 : i do it improoves the moblity of joints
[19:17:31 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : what do you all think?
[19:17:48 05/10/09] alice p : Yes I think we do
[19:18:16 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : OK...should we move on?
[19:18:18 05/10/09] grace witting : The mind directs the body
[19:18:37 05/10/09] alice p : OK
[19:18:39 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Yes it does
[19:18:52 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : at least when we are a beginner
[19:19:00 05/10/09] grace witting : not only in purposeful movements, but physiologically like lowering blood pressure
[19:19:12 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : do you think we get to a place where the body directs the mind?
[19:19:18 05/10/09] manickam34 : i beleive if tai chi is done at vry slow speed with concentration, the prana that chi is harveted the heats the frojen fluid in the joint
[19:19:25 05/10/09] grace witting : Donna, is there some point at which the mind does not direct the body
[19:19:39 05/10/09] manickam34 : to lubricte and able to move well
[19:19:55 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Raja...I think there is something to what you say.
[19:19:56 05/10/09] alice p : yes the body memory takes over some times
[19:20:04 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : This is the Qi Gong aspect of Tai Chi
[19:20:32 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : What about the body directing the mind...what do think Alice?
[19:21:02 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Are you referring to muscle memory?
[19:21:36 05/10/09] alice p : after a lot of practice you let your mind go and the body memory kicks in
[19:21:52 05/10/09] Susan J : I'm fascinated by the idea that the mind and body are so connected. The body does know what to do at times, and it is able to calm the mind in this way.
[19:21:53 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Grace - do you agree?
[19:21:53 05/10/09] alice p : Yes that is the word
[19:22:53 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : OK...here is what I teach about this topic...
[19:23:07 05/10/09] grace witting : I think the ideal is to be mindful when you practice your tai chi, but yes I agree if you let your muscle memory kick in and just go on automatic pilot it can still be very relaxing
[19:23:09 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : When we first start we must allow the mind to lead the body
[19:23:27 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : when the muscle memory kicks in
[19:23:43 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : we must be mindful as Grace cautions to stay in it with your mind!
[19:24:15 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : If you go on auto pilot...you can certainly be relaxed, but you lose the important benefit of cultivating the mind as well
[19:24:44 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : So how about we go to the next topic on our list?
[19:24:45 05/10/09] grace witting : Also I think to "grow" your skill, you need to be mindful to examine what you are doing
[19:25:08 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : I agree Grace...Should we continue with this topic? I am OK with that if we have more to share.
[19:26:13 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : What benefits have you personally experienced doing Tai CHi?
[19:26:24 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Who weants to start?
[19:26:35 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : How about Grace?
[19:26:44 05/10/09] grace witting : ok
[19:27:00 05/10/09] grace witting : Well the mental peace is huge
[19:27:20 05/10/09] alice p : I feel that my legs are much stronger posture iis bettr
[19:27:24 05/10/09] grace witting : Building strength in the lower extremities is great
[19:27:31 05/10/09] Susan J : I see the results in many aspects of my life. I am able to do most things less wildly and more thoughtfully. The idea of finishing the movement in huge!
[19:27:39 05/10/09] grace witting : Posture is big
[19:27:50 05/10/09] Susan J : oops - is huge
[19:27:59 05/10/09] alice p : Breathing is calmer, mind is calmer
[19:28:00 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Keep going...I like where Susan is headed.
[19:28:01 05/10/09] grace witting : Susan, can you give an example, that is really interesting
[19:28:14 05/10/09] manickam34 : balance is improoved
[19:28:36 05/10/09] grace witting : I'm tripping less
[19:28:52 05/10/09] alice p : balance and coordination better
[19:28:54 05/10/09] Susan J : I wish I could think of a big one. I simply feel more in control of my work and even things I do around the house. I can finish things instead of moving on
[19:29:15 05/10/09] grace witting : Do you think it is learned patience
[19:29:33 05/10/09] alice p : I agree
[19:29:45 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : great word poictuire...learned patience
[19:29:54 05/10/09] Susan J : There is an aspect of patiencc, but for me it's more calming the spirit and not feeling so rushed, pushed
[19:30:18 05/10/09] grace witting : I like that
[19:30:22 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Why do you think the practice of TAi Chi achieves this result
[19:30:27 05/10/09] alice p : yes no presssure
[19:30:52 05/10/09] grace witting : Maybe it teaches you to slow down
[19:30:59 05/10/09] Susan J : The very simple idea of finishing the movement has grown into something larger - knowing what the whold thing is?
[19:31:19 05/10/09] Susan J : Slowing down is part of it. slowing down to consider.
[19:31:34 05/10/09] alice p : because you are coordinating the mind body and spirit
[19:31:50 05/10/09] Susan J : Yes - a kind of integration.
[19:31:55 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : I like the use of the finishing...
[19:32:21 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : When I do a word study...I have found that the word "perfect" is often paired with words like finish and com,plete
[19:32:23 05/10/09] alice p : i agree
[19:32:48 05/10/09] grace witting : Maybe physiological changes , like less stress hormones allows one to function beter
[19:33:13 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : I like the idea that poerfecting doesn';t have to mean "PERFECT" it can be used in the sense of completing or finishing well
[19:33:40 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Do you guys know about the pathways of the brain that get imprinted so to speak when we practice?
[19:33:59 05/10/09] Susan J : It's definitely calmed some of the stress. The idea of perfecting is scary if it leads to something perfect. I think the perfect is what made me frantic.
[19:34:00 05/10/09] grace witting : No tell us please
[19:34:13 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : evrytime we do something better and continue to to di to correctly - we are making new paths in the brain
[19:34:36 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Alice...is the idea that perfect being more like completing or finishing more freeing?
[19:34:49 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Does it take some of the stress away?
[19:35:07 05/10/09] manickam34 : yes
[19:35:17 05/10/09] alice p : yes our purpose to strive to perfection
[19:35:24 05/10/09] Susan J : The idea that one must work toward the perfect is essential. Starting where you are.
[19:35:29 05/10/09] alice p : yes
[19:35:49 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Being OK with "where you are" is so important!
[19:36:04 05/10/09] Susan J : absolutely essential
[19:36:18 05/10/09] grace witting : I like a dynamic process and as long as I can feel myself improving, I'm Happy
[19:36:18 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : That is a great observation and one that many people do not learn
[19:36:51 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Maybe that's why Tai Chi is really best practiced when we jave lived a little bit of life...not so much for the young
[19:36:58 05/10/09] alice p : yes be in the moment and don't move backward
[19:37:01 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : They can't "get it"
[19:37:43 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Grace...would you like to go back to the "brain" coment?
[19:37:57 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : We were talking about "learned patience"
[19:38:14 05/10/09] grace witting : Yes, I was thinking that the practice of tai chi must have positive effects on brain chemistry'
[19:38:42 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Maybe Raja can be more scientific about it...but here is what I have learned...
[19:38:45 05/10/09] grace witting : It allows the brain to function better, like eliminating high anxiety type A behavior for example
[19:38:57 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : When we use our mind in any way...we create tracks that arecimprinted
[19:39:05 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : The more do this the more deeply they inmprint
[19:39:07 05/10/09] grace witting : This may help to slow one enough to "finish" things
[19:39:15 05/10/09] grace witting : What do you all think'
[19:39:23 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : If we do something positive it imprints and if we do something negative it imprints
[19:39:38 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : You can see how this can work in the physiical realm
[19:40:01 05/10/09] alice p : yes negative thingscan become bad habits or addictions
[19:40:06 05/10/09] Susan J : Learning to finish things does take practice, like learning the form.
[19:40:14 05/10/09] grace witting : Best to fix physical errors in practice sooner than later'
[19:40:45 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : We imprint the physical aspect of the form...but we also imprint the method by which we are able to do this
[19:41:05 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : thus we imprint patience (learned patience) or perhaps we don;'t
[19:41:08 05/10/09] Susan J : One of the Feldankrais ideas is that we can unlern some of the bad imprinting of physical behaviors through practice.
[19:41:24 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : I loove that Susan
[19:41:34 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : The idea that we can unlearn is not so much how I see it though
[19:41:36 05/10/09] Susan J : And that one side of the brain learns from the other
[19:41:49 05/10/09] grace witting : Unlearning is very laborious
[19:41:55 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : I see it more as a replacement of what I learned badly with something that I learned well
[19:42:06 05/10/09] alice p : i think that is nurolinguistic programing
[19:42:09 05/10/09] grace witting : I have spent since 1992 trying to change my posture via the Alexander technique
[19:42:38 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Grace...that's a long time...have you succeeded?
[19:42:53 05/10/09] Susan J : In psychology, theoretically you have to unlearn the learned thing before you can learn something else. Of course, those guys are wrong about a lot of things.
[19:43:04 05/10/09] grace witting : I have to a great extent, but the Tai Chi is a much more efficient way to achiever good posture
[19:43:17 05/10/09] grace witting : It has enhanced my work in that regard tremendously
[19:43:31 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Hey - I am curious about what Susan said...
[19:43:41 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : do you think we can unlearn something?
[19:44:21 05/10/09] Susan J : Maybe it's unlearned by being replaced. We can't remember the first sword form.
[19:44:29 05/10/09] grace witting : I think unlearning is the same as Donna said, replacing with more correct body usage
[19:44:32 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Too funny!
[19:44:45 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Maybe the best way to unlearn is just to forget! - LOL
[19:44:46 05/10/09] alice p : I think we can correct not necessaryunlearn
[19:45:00 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Alice - I like that!
[19:45:10 05/10/09] Susan J : That forgetting thing is getting easier.
[19:45:21 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Me too Susan.
[19:45:36 05/10/09] alice p : me too
[19:45:46 05/10/09] grace witting : It's a shame the kids don't take to tai chi, because their inherent posture is so much more correct from the start
[19:45:50 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : So Grace...lets' get back to what you said about Tai Chi being a more efficiient way to achieve the posture you were looing for.
[19:46:07 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Tell us more about your comment
[19:46:43 05/10/09] grace witting : The Alexander technique as a vehicle for achieving good posture is more elusive
[19:47:09 05/10/09] grace witting : It is easier to correct the posture by utilizing the root position which is easier to sense
[19:47:10 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Do they just make it comlicated or si there more to it than in Tai Chi?
[19:47:46 05/10/09] grace witting : The fundamental principle of The Alexander is the optimal positioning of the head/neck relationship
[19:48:04 05/10/09] alice p : i agree that rooting is the root of good posture
[19:48:26 05/10/09] Susan J : It's hard to get the head right, even when rooting
[19:48:39 05/10/09] grace witting : That if you position the head with the neck fully elonated, the spine will position itself correctly and compensatory muscular activity associate with bad posture will dissipate
[19:49:04 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : I think it is so interesting that if we just have a vision of the purpose for our posture...we can execute it more correctly without so much explanation.
[19:49:34 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : To get the head right...just imagine that someone is going to threatebn you with a big fist - that ought to fix it - eh?
[19:49:46 05/10/09] Susan J : Right!
[19:49:54 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Was that too base? Sorry but I couldn;t resist.
[19:49:55 05/10/09] alice p : The taiji classics have it right
[19:50:19 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : I guess there is not a lot of fist work in piano right Garce?
[19:50:23 05/10/09] grace witting : I think adjusting the posture from thetop down is more difficult that adjusting it from the bottome up
[19:50:35 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Great observation
[19:50:52 05/10/09] grace witting : I think the Chinese got it right
[19:51:00 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : I knew this chat would yield wonderful insight...I'm going to steal that Grace.
[19:51:07 05/10/09] grace witting : Alexander got it right too
[19:51:28 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : I have taught on this from another perspective...but I am defintely going to ponder that one for future use.
[19:51:56 05/10/09] grace witting : A little history here
[19:52:01 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Aleaxander and the Chinese just got to it from opposite directions
[19:52:07 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : tell us..
[19:52:26 05/10/09] grace witting : Alexander was a Tasmanian Shakespearean actor who had trouble with the breath in monologues.
[19:52:50 05/10/09] grace witting : He kept running out of breath so he explored how to expand the chest to take in more air
[19:53:16 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : very interesting...sound familiar to my QiGong practitioners?
[19:53:19 05/10/09] grace witting : He watched himself speak in the mirror
[19:53:36 05/10/09] grace witting : He uncovered the optimal head/neck relationship'
[19:53:53 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : My son was being trained in his voice and he kept sharing all the similarities he was getting from that and his martyial training
[19:53:59 05/10/09] grace witting : I think he stole the Ahhhhhhhhhh sound
[19:54:01 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : HI Lee!
[19:54:12 05/10/09] Susan J : We've encountered this idea before - assuming a rooted posture enhances the voice. I've seen it work with an actual person.
[19:54:12 05/10/09] sifulee : hi all
[19:54:16 05/10/09] Susan J : Hi lee
[19:54:25 05/10/09] alice p : Hi Lee
[19:54:26 05/10/09] grace witting : Hi Lee
[19:54:51 05/10/09] sifulee : sorry - just got back from running my son out
[19:54:51 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Lee we are chatting about the root and posture in general..we are off on a little tangent - but you'll pick right up
[19:55:08 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : So let me tell you something else along this line...
[19:55:21 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : I think I mentioned this in one of my RWJ Qi Ging classes.
[19:55:41 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : This same posture that we use to enhance our Taichi Practice is used everywhere
[19:55:52 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : We just learned it can be used paying pianao and in singing
[19:55:55 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : -
[19:56:08 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : I was also taught this same method when preparing to have a baby--
[19:56:12 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : remember Lamaze breathing
[19:56:43 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : I know this may be wird...but the idea of opening obstructions is clearly used in gigvng nirth
[19:56:56 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : sorry for the typos
[19:57:27 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : OK...did that scare everybody away?LOL!
[19:57:31 05/10/09] Susan J : I wonder whether giving birth in a rooted posture would work better. Too weird?
[19:57:34 05/10/09] grace witting : Donna, can you relate Qi Gong breathing to the birthing process
[19:58:06 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Susan...they ahve brithing chairs that would somewhat simulate the rooted posture...using gracvity as well.
[19:58:08 05/10/09] grace witting : America is the only place on earth where people give birth lying on their back
[19:58:25 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Grace - I did not know that...really???
[19:58:54 05/10/09] grace witting : Everyone else squats or uses a birthing chair or stands in a pool of wqter'
[19:58:59 05/10/09] Susan J : It doesn't make sense, really, to deny the role of gravity.
[19:59:29 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : OK...let's move on to our other topic from here.
[19:59:37 05/10/09] alice p : I can personally relate to rooting enhancing singing.
[19:59:39 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Lee...are you still with us???
[20:00:05 05/10/09] grace witting : Alice, do you study voice
[20:00:05 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Here is the last topic point that I sent...
[20:00:08 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Is there a concept that you’ve learned about that you struggle with?
[20:00:23 05/10/09] sifulee : ah ya
[20:00:23 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Who wants to get us started...maybe Alice?
[20:00:41 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Lee...sorry - you came in on that birthing stuff - LOL
[20:00:43 05/10/09] alice p : no but i sand for years in church chior
[20:00:51 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Now we are back to Tai Chi.
[20:01:21 05/10/09] alice p : I have to ligh off Nite
[20:01:51 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Sorry...I did not mean to stop that line of conversation about rooting and singing...I missed the string...if you want to continue we can or we can move on
[20:01:52 05/10/09] Susan J : I have trouble with the martial aspects of tai chi, which, unfortunately, is what it's about. I just don't get it.
[20:01:59 05/10/09] grace witting : I'm starting to examine how I finish moves
[20:02:33 05/10/09] grace witting : Never quite sure how much to allow the body to rotate in finishing'
[20:02:55 05/10/09] sifulee : I wouldn't say that martial is what tai chi is all about - partly yes, but certainly not all
[20:03:02 05/10/09] grace witting : I'm with Susan on that
[20:03:04 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : I agree Lee
[20:03:14 05/10/09] Susan J : clearly not all for me.
[20:03:15 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : It is only one aspect
[20:03:44 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : it helps in understanding, but so do other things
[20:03:54 05/10/09] sifulee : It's always a good thing to have in mind in your practice - but we know there is so much
[20:03:57 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Hi raja
[20:04:09 05/10/09] manickam34 : hi
[20:04:35 05/10/09] Susan J : Raja, how important is the martial aspect of tai chi for your practice?
[20:04:57 05/10/09] manickam34 : it makes it to understand the form better
[20:05:42 05/10/09] Susan J : I guess my lack of brothers in childhood impairs my comprehension.
[20:06:06 05/10/09] grace witting : I find it a little intimidating to face a partner
[20:06:08 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : OK...do we want to address the comment that Grace made about finishing movements?
[20:06:17 05/10/09] sifulee : I agree with Raja - to help understand the movements - to imagine an opponent
[20:06:21 05/10/09] grace witting : I would like to be more comfortable with that'
[20:06:27 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Grace...did you say you aren't sure how far to turn when compolketing movements
[20:06:39 05/10/09] grace witting : yes
[20:07:16 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Does anyone have any thoughts that would help Grace discern this?
[20:07:45 05/10/09] Susan J : I'm not sure I understand when the problem occurs.
[20:07:54 05/10/09] sifulee : A lot may be hip vs. waist
[20:08:05 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Grace...help us ubnderstand...maybe an exapmle?
[20:08:37 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Lee...why don;t you talk about that and give us your perspective on this
[20:08:39 05/10/09] grace witting : How much to square up, for exqample Fair lady
[20:10:13 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Any thoughts onthis posture from those of you who have been doing it a while?
[20:10:39 05/10/09] sifulee : Too often we overturn because we allow too much of our hips to rotate. Limiting to the waist only can help prevent that - think of your belly button.
[20:11:10 05/10/09] Susan J : Maybe we need to try this in class to get a clear perspective.
[20:11:25 05/10/09] grace witting : So it is helpful for the mind to be thinking waist first then finishing with hips if necessary?
[20:11:54 05/10/09] sifulee : Actually I do talk about it from time to time - but it's something we could all work on for sure Susan
[20:12:13 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Grace...think of your body like a wave...
[20:12:28 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : If you start from the bottom and work your way up...
[20:12:45 05/10/09] grace witting : Seems like it shoudl be the reverse, think hips first and finish with the waist?
[20:12:50 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : you would find the place where your hips complete their movement...but the waist still has a olittle more left.
[20:13:02 05/10/09] sifulee : Yes Grace - waist first - of course after rooting and bringing the energy up the legs
[20:13:04 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : You might even see that your head acn go a little further
[20:13:46 05/10/09] grace witting : I think we should explore it in class if that's ok
[20:13:58 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : sure can...
[20:14:11 05/10/09] Susan J : I have noticed that you lalk about it Lee. Let's try it in class tomorrow.
[20:14:11 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : this may be too jcuh to do in the Chat wiothout real physical work
[20:14:31 05/10/09] sifulee : Count on it Susan
[20:14:41 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : So what do you say folks? Are we ready to finish up?
[20:14:53 05/10/09] Susan J : I'm ready.
[20:14:57 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Are there any last thoughts we would like to say before we call it a night?
[20:14:59 05/10/09] sifulee : any time Sifu
[20:14:59 05/10/09] grace witting : This has been very interesting, thank you Donna
[20:15:12 05/10/09] Susan J : Thank you for setting this up. Very interesting
[20:15:21 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Thank you all so much for trying this out. Thanks Lee for coming..I am very glad toyou made it
[20:15:29 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : I am glad Grace got to talk to you
[20:15:37 05/10/09] sifulee : My pleasure
[20:15:55 05/10/09] Susan J : Good night all.
[20:15:57 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : OK...how about we go and enjoy the rest of our evening and we'll see each other very soon.
[20:16:00 05/10/09] grace witting : Thank you sifulee
[20:16:14 05/10/09] @ SifuDonna : Good night!
[20:16:16 05/10/09] sifulee : Nice chatting Grace
[20:16:24 05/10/09] sifulee : bye
[20:16:25 05/10/09] manickam34 : good night to all

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October 5, 2009-Discussion :: Comments

interesting chat
Post on Sat Oct 17, 2009 4:34 pm  judithrose
After reading the transcripts, I realize how much we can share in the chat room. Hopefully I'll be avalale for the next one Judy
 

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